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Miro, I already mentioned words about using common sense when replying on your other forum post, and we can actually see it now on your video.

Execute Trigger Bot needs to set the full path name to the bot trigger script file with parameter TriggerFilePathName. When working on your triggers and on my own ones, I was tired to copy&paste the script file name to this parameters, so I added a button (…) on the right side of the input box, when you click on this button the Open file dialog appears and you can select the script file which the Bot Trigger must to open and execute. It is definitely quicker to enter this parameter, and the last used folder is remembered as well.

We can all see a new button in your video, but you, once learnt to copy&paste script file name you will do copy&paste, well because you are used to mechanically repeat what you saw or what you were learnt to do, and doing it without thinking.

I added this button 3 version back maybe, so you actually worked with this for 3-5 days without noticing it.

You know that I used to name bots so the bot name describers a bot activity, and actually explains what a bot is doing and how. For instance Place bet and close selection bet position, well I could simply name it Trading bot, right? Naming this bot Trading bot would be confusing mainly for those who just started to learn what it is trading on betfair.

I believe that naming it Place bet and close selection bet position, is better as it exactly says what the bot does, so place bet first, and then close bet position. Well English is foreign language for me, but I hope that everyone understands what bet position means.

I named your script file SaveBotDataBotTrigger.fs

So what does this bot trigger do? Well, of course save bot data(s), and as I did not mention anything about when/how the bot saves “bot data”, it is at least clear that as the bot saves bot data, this bot must be executed before any other bot is started, as the bot saves bot data for bots which were executed later, and it does so by registering that bot had finished its activity, that bot was stopped, and saving its name, selection on which the bot was executed, and the bet position the bot had created.

If the bot would save profit history on the market, then I would name such bot:

SaveProfitHistoryBotTrigger.fs

Well BotTrigger in the name is useless, as the bot actually does not trigger any action bot, but if you have got more files in a project folder then you basically creates your naming convention for files, and this way you can differ different files in its purpose.

In your video we can see that you executed two instance of this SaveBotDataBotTrigger bot, even if you expected that the bot save profit history data, then I do not understand why you executed/started two instances of this bot, you must clearly understand that profit history, is a market profit balance saved “history”. I think the list of profit balances saves last 60 changes of the profit balance on a market. So I would expect to start the bot only once, as the bot would save market profit history.

In your video we can see that you installed Visual Studio on your computer, but instead of showing us your bot script file, maybe changed to suits your needs, for instance to not save bot data if bot did not create any bet position, such change requires two additional lines in your bot trigger code, you showed us csv file opened in Visual Studio, well that is frecking unbelievable.

So you installed Visual Studio, but you did not open Bfexplorer BOT SDK projects, and you did not create a project for your bot scripts, then my question is why you actually installed VS, very huge application installation which took you maybe more than 3 hours to install, but you actually do not know how to use VS for bot development.

This is really quite strange, but you have got the bot source code, so you have got “documentation”, what the bot does and how, but you were not interested to learn what the bot does, by opening the bot source code in the Visual Studio.

I would really suggest you to not doing something what it beyond your possibilities, make all your effort to study market prices development on many betfair sports events, then do manual trading and then find possibilities for bot automation, but not by bot triggers development for what you need at least basic understanding of for you are doing.

Hi Stefan:

Is it possible a keyboard shortcut for the stop-loss?
For example: ctrl 3, stop at 3 ticks, ctrl 4, stop loss in 4 ticks, etc.

You say yes, please.

Thanks in advance.

How can I use this “SaveBotDataBotTrigger” script ?
Perhaps I wasted much time vainly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOZLI8VuUYE

About - StakeType parameter:

http://youtu.be/C5s_jRPYyFI

Thanks.

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My csv:

PlaceBet_Back_now;Ainslie;0.00;0.00;0.00;0.00;0.00

- only one row...

I have just updated bfexplorer adding StakeType parameter for Scratch Trading bot.

sorry, StakeType issue when using Use Ladder feature still don't work correctly.

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- Place Bet

- Be The First In Queue

- Fill Or Kill

- Place Bet and Close Selection Bet Position

- Tick Offset

- Scratch Trading bot still works with Stake only

I prefer so the most easily trading as can be...

This is afternoon test... full automated trading on 3-4 selections.
I am sure that will be more profitable if I can cut losses and take profits... on average

Big profits and big losses - nothing good for premium charge

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BTW: now I need analyse winning streak for my Place Bet Close Position bots - If I have "output" data, each robot will have their name, I can easily find out winning streak - first step for any staking plan

What you want is not desirable feature as the feedback from price movement is actually required feature for a trading ladder.

Miro was asking for different kind of ladder, showing just prices from his defined price range, that is not possible to implement right now, but made some experiment with bfexplorer spreadsheet. You can read and watch a video in this article: My New trading grid

http://bfexplorer.net/Community/ForumContent/60#My New trading grid

Thank for the clarification, Stefan.

Ehhh... I wish there were an option to center the ladder constantly without need to press "spacebar". :-)

The ladder is automatically centered if last traded price is out of visible odds/price range on the ladder. You can test it just by scrolling ladder up or down.

It is not centered constantly, but you can do so by pressing shortcut (spacebar) or just by clicking on center toolbar button, this way you can see price trend development, as initially any market selection is centered in the ladder.

Yes Miro I can prepare something, but I think you actually do not know how you will analyze data. From what you said, you want to save market profit value, well ok but how you want to analyze such data?

I think you should first read some papers about analyzing data. You will not get any relevant information from just one value.

For instance have a look at on my article: Betfair Tennis Trading and Data Visualization

Yes, I know...

But I only know how to use in-buid features.

Close Market Bet Position bot write to Output window potential profit. This is only one available posibility for me...

I used Stop Market Monitoring too. What about implement save data from market into this bot. I think all records from "Output window" and from current market is enough.

// it is only suggestion. Ask for all other traders if will be usefull for

Shortcuts
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spacebar shortcut - center ladders in the Bet Event Trader

You can save any market data you see in bfexplorer, all those data are available for bot developer, so it is up to you what you save and how.

In the latest version of bfexplorer I added new method to IBotTrigger interface, EndExecution. So if you implement your bot trigger to listen for bot notifications, you should clean up when bot trigger stops its execution, in the EndExecution method.

After updating to Windows 10, the mouse capturing seems to not working when making my video screencasts. I will try to fix it in new videos.

I have fixed StakeType issue when using Use Ladder feature, update bfexplorer and your bot triggers as well.

Hi Stefan:

Congratulations and thank you for continuous improvement. I think all the tools that incorporate are very useful and help improve the trading experience.

Can you make videos with visible mouse cursor?

Very hard to watching

Executing through Use Ladder function does not works correctly...

Use StakeType from beStakeIs

You can test it in the latest version of bfexplorer.