Comments

Soon I will reinstall to a clean Win 10.

I will try again.

------------

Now I have got folder with a scripts on the separate hard drive, not in Docu folder like you...

For example, I tried to search for mscorlib.dll and System.dll and found them in these locations:

mscorlib.dll - C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\assembly\GAC_32\mscorlib\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089
               C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319
               C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\assembly\GAC_64\mscorlib\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089
               C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319 
               C:\Windows\Installer\$PatchCache$\Managed\5D136A49A03B8DD36BC511710CD97AE3\4.6.81 
               C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727

System.dll - C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System\v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089
             C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319
             C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319
             C:\Windows\winsxs\msil_system_b77a5c561934e089_6.1.7601.17966_none_aef0fb4c1897386e
             C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_netfx-system_b03f5f7f11d50a3a_6.1.7601.21890_none_a86a53a8176f75e6
             C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_netfx-system_b03f5f7f11d50a3a_6.1.7601.17514_none_bf2f9d3ffdcfb10a

Yes, I have BackCorrectScore00LayDrawTrigger.dll. Where shoudl I put it?

There are two options how to execute bot trigger. You tested bot trigger execution from source code, and once again you confirmed that compilation ends with error because on your system there are missing assemblies or are just located in different folder. I can live with that because installing Visual Studio solves these problems, what Miro already tested.

These issues seems to be out of Miro’s interest because he did not comment this issue, actually he can shed more light on it because maybe he tested bot trigger execution before installing Visual Studio.

The second option is to execute bot trigger from complied assembly, you actually have both files when you downloaded zip file.

Here's the screenshot of the log with the errors - http://s15.postimg.org/t4da8awcr/error.png

Stefan, I’ve tried to run BackCorrectScore00LayDrawTrigger.fs and got this error:

[img]http://s15.postimg.org/t4da8awcr/error.png[/img]

I think you already learned what bfexplorer bots are about, the wrapped based functionality which can be easy setup (if people had been reading frecking bot descriptions nobody is actually reading, what you can see here on forum as well) and reused like in lego blocks.

Any bfexplorer bot implements some basic functionally, and all bots were made to be used in certain bot betting/trading scenarios.

Well, of course I can see some usability in new bot functionality building block/s, like what you need, cancel bets and execute some other bot, but I do not think that actual general usage would be so simple, therefore for now I would prefer what I suggested, to use Execute Trigger Bot with custom built bot trigger for your trading scenario.

Please, test if on your computer you are able to run bot triggers, read this article:

http://bfexplorer.net/Community/BlogContent/113

Bfexplorer has just couple users, and those willing to test something are even less, 2 or 3 users. Miro is disqualified as a tester because he installed Visual Studio, so he is able to run bot triggers, from source code and from built assembly as I can do. Two other users run Windows 7, and for now I did not identify a problem, it seems to be just some problem of missing assemblies, or referenced assemblies wich are in Windows 7 located on different folders.

I will be online tomorrow, so if you are willing to help me solve this Bot Trigger compilation problem then send me teamviewer access code, or other remote desktop access to your computer, if you have got similar problems to run bot trigger.

I will program custom bot trigger for you later tomorrow.

Your trading scenario could have some potential on some racing where two or three favorites fight to win. You assume that the first leader will be beaten; therefore you need to cancel all other unmatched bets. You really should test in practice mode on some race types only, I cannot believe you will execute profitable trade on each race, but as an example for a bot trigger this strategy of yours is good one.

Once more, here's what I need to do:

1) Place "Lay" order on all selections.

2) If any of the placed Lay orders is matched then place the "offset" Back order.

3) Cancel all other unmatched Lay orders.

As I said I figured out how to make 1) and 2) but I can't figure out how to make 3)

Once more, thanks for your help and patience, guys!

I already figure out how to place the offset order when the initial order is matches and how to execute bot on all selections and I liked it very much!

It's very impressive that such complex task can be done so easily in BFexplorer! My hat's off to Stefan!

The only issued I have is that I can't figure out how to cancel the unmatched bet orders on specific selection when the order is matches on some selections.

Mir, thank a lot for your help! I've managed to make it works as I want.

Stefan, thank for your help and the great software! : - )

Ilay, any bfexplorer bot implements some base functionality. Tick offset bot emulates base trading operation with NET stake any beginner trader does. No further parameters are needed as in such cases trader does not hedge his bet position but placing bets with the same stake amount.

This bot helps to automate placing NET stake offset bet immediately after any part of opening bet is matched.

As Miro suggested, if you want to place hedge bets then use Place bet and close selection bet position, or just Close selection bet position alternatives.

Even in the above mentioned bots you still have possibility to choose between hedging bet position or closing it by NET stake.

Rui just read bot parameters descriptions, if read them you would not set bot parameters you set in your picture, as actually with such bot parameter setting your bet would be placed only when gap between offered the beats back and lay odds is equal to 7.

Miro’s suggestion is wrong.

If you want to place a bet on all selections then you must create Place bet bot setting with set Odds parameter to 1.1 and the parameter PlaceBetInAllowedOddsRange to False (uncheck parameter), the parameter ExecuteOnSelection must be set to 0, only in such case you will get a general bot settings which can be executed on any selection.

It is clear that you need to set BetType to Lay, and Stake.

Now, you can use this general bot setting, you named it for instance Place lay bet 100 @ 1.1 with the bot Execute on Selections.

People please, read descriptions for bot parameters. What does the “Execute on Selections” bot parameter OnSelections say?

Selections on which you want to execute your bot (for instance: 1,2,4). If you do not type any selections the action bot will be execute on all selections.

So if you want to execute your action bot (Place lay bet 100 @ 1.1) on all selections, then just leave this parameter empty, once again read:

If you do not type any selections the action bot will be executed on all selections.

Place bet and close selection bet position, is the bot placing offset bet as you name it Ilya. In bfexplorer terminology we call such operation Close selection bet position, or hedge bet position.
What you want to achieve can be done by custom bot trigger only, you actually develop a trading strategy.

For now you can use Place bet and close selection bet position, and execute such bot as suggested on all selections, so once your lay bet is fully matched the bot places back bet at set Profit parameter. I think you already figured out that placing “offset bet” immmediatly after opening bet is matched you need to set the parameter: ClosePositionImmediately.

When using other betfair apps you need to do such development mainly by creating Excel triggers, and when necessary by programming some VBA code in excel, here in bfexplorer you can do so by bot trigger programming.

All bfexplorer bots offer some base functionality, if you already tested Place bet bot with your settings you might notice that executed bot remains active till its action is not finished. This feature allows combine some base bots in a simple solution.

In your trading solution you need:

Place bets

Monitor bet status to execute bets cancelling and closing bet position on selection with matched bet.

Close bet position bot is available, but not bot for canceling other bets. I will think about it, if making some other simpler bots will benefit others.

Yes, I understand.

Trouble is when the first bet matched. Next bot in Chain execution (Stop Market monitoring with StopRunningBot parameter) close ALL OTHER BOTS. In this case if close Chain execution bot will not run next others...

---------------------------------------

I asked a similar question. Answer is here:

http://bfexplorer.net/Community/ForumContent/119#Kill the bot

There is concrete bot. Works fine.

https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/MGPHRKS.png

Download file and open in My Bots...

http://1drv.ms/1j03Bfk

Mir, can you help me how to do that:

For example, there are 25 selections in the market and I place a Lay order at price 1.1 on every selections and if any of these order is matches then I want to place offset "Back" order on that selection and cancel all other unmatched lay orders.  

Thanks for any help.

Ilya Nikol,

if you are manual trader you can cancel bets:

- on the Ladder (click column header - To Lay, To Back)

- in the Market Bets (select curent bet and cancel)

If you are trader with full automated solution, you must know which bets are on the selection or market. If there are Open bets or Close bets, never mind if bets are with Lay or Back type.

Or ... in other words: you must cancel Lay bets if your Open bet is Lay bet and full matched? No.

I expect that you have only Close bet on the Selection, with Back bet type.

--------------------------
I understand your requirement, but it not need actually.

 "Tick Offset" bot is supposed to do that but the lack of these features makes him useless:

1) It isn't possible to choose the stake amount for the "Offset" order so it isn't possible to hedge the position and lock the profit. There should be an option to choose the specific stake amount of the "Offset" order or just "hedge".

2) There are no option to keep the orders "In Play" or not. Also there's no "Fill or Kill" option.

3) You can't set how to deal with partial fills. There should be an option to offset partial fill or wait until full match.

Mir, I'm afraid I can't do it by "Chain Execution" bot as you described because in this case both orders are placed at the same time but I need to place the "Offset" order only AFTER the initial order is matched because the price of my initial order can be far away from the current market price.

Also, the initial order might be matches not in full and I also need to offset those partial fills.

Any though how to do that?

 Thanks for the help, guys! I really appreciate it!

But I still can't figure out how to cancel only "specific" unmatched bets, for example, only unmatched Back bets or only unmatched Lay orders.  

Also, I can't figure out how to make the bots to start work again on the market after I triggered "StopRunningBot" bot.

Hi Ilya Nikol,

bots are more universal than you can see on the first look. Some combos of bot are very usefull for manual traders. Some for full automated betting or trading. For example Tick Offset bot vs. Place Bet and Close Positon.

For manual traders is the best feature run a bots directly on the Ladder.

Partial matching - my experience, more small bet are better than one big.

InPlay - there are AllowPlacingBetInPlay and AtInPlayKeepBet parameters

Offset - you can set by ticks Profit/Loss, see Close selection bots

----------------------------------

If you want set exactly open bets and close bets use 2 Place Bet bot in Chain Execution. It is easy:

Chain Execution (PlaceBet01 bot (Lay, Odds 2,30; Stake 10), PlaceBet02 bot (Back, Odds 2,70; Stake 11,74)

It is exactly by you want!