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  • Betfair Bot
    8.8.2020 17:05:28

    There are maybe zillions of different betfair strategies one could execute, but it does not mean that for any such betfair strategy you need dedicated bot, program executing such strategy.

    Just think about it what does it mean lay favourite?

    We know that lay bet will be placed.

    We know that the lay bet must be placed on the favourite.

    Bfexplorer offers general bot named “Place Bet”.

    What such bot can do, just by judging from its name?

    Well, of course it can place bet, set by parameter: BetType.

    In our case we need to set this parameter to Lay.

    We need to place such bet on the favourite, so setting the parameter SortSelectionsBy to “Last Price Traded” will sort market selections by price/odds, the favourite will have index 1, the second favourite 2, and so on.

    As we are instructing the “Place Bet” bot to do what we want in our strategy, what is missing?

    Of course the selection on which the lay bet will be placed, and the parameter to set is: ExecuteOnSelection. As the favourite has index 1, we set the parameter ExecuteOnSelection to 1.

    And that is all we need. Of course all bfexplorer bots where the above parameters make sense, so BetType, SortSelectionsBy and ExecuteOnSelection have such parameters.

    Now we can save the bot settings naming it: “Place lay bet on favourite”. Naming the bot settings and saving it, adds the bot to the list of “My Strategies / Bots to Execute”, and such bot settings become general use for any case we need to lay favourite on the market.

    Of course bfexplorer bots offers a lot of different parameters, each of them just from naming suggests for what they can be used, and there is parameter description provided as well, so just read the screen.

    The above bot settings does not define any entry criteria, so if your strategy have any such criteria you can set them on Entry Criteria of the bot settings dialog.

    When I mentioned “general bot settings” or “action bot” settings I mention in many blog posts, then even if your strategy is super complicated trigger, or machine learning algorithm triggering bet placing, then any time in such complicated strategy you need just simple “Place Bet” bot.

    Well yes, I said simple “Place Bet” bot, but it actually is not so simple program, as it manages bet placing and updating not matched bets when odds moves and odds are still in allowed odds range to place a bet, or cancel unmatched bet when bet placing is not allowed at in-play, the parameter: AllowPlacingBetInPlay, and so on.

  • dnx444
    8.8.2020 15:42:12

    Thanks for the reply. I noticed that the lay the favourite one isnt on the list, where would I be able to find that?

  • Betfair Bot
    8.8.2020 13:09:11

    There is no need for any programming if your strategy can be executed by setting pre-built bfexplorer bots:

    http://bfexplorer.net/Products/Feature/23#My%20betfair%20bots

    If your bot strategy needs programming up to 30 – 60 minutes of my time, then I do such bespoke bot scripts for free. On the forum you can find a lot of such scripts:

    http://bfexplorer.net/Articles/ByTag?tag=Case%20Study

    And of course for more complicated bot strategies you must pay for my work, it starts from 150 GBP, what represents 5 hours of my work.

  • Betfair Bot
    5.8.2020 10:05:14

    The OfferedAmountToLay takes 3 best offered prices and calculates sum of offered volume. The BestOfferedAmountToLay takes just bets offered price volume. It is similar for ToBack properties.

  • Betfair Bot
    16.6.2020 7:39:57

    Sir, you edited previous text, are you really serious? My comment to this post then make no sense, no attached video. I cannot believe that.

  • Betfair Bot
    15.6.2020 12:08:38

    In the application toolbar there is button: “Use Bet Event Trader”, clicking on it switches your user interface between ladder one and market grid view.

    In bfexplorer terms we call ladders UI (User Interface): “Bet Event Trader” view and grid is simply: “Bet Event” view.

    Now you can resize or reorganize your views like you want to, switching off not used views or switching on all views you want to use, and then save your layout clicking on View menu item: Workspaces / Add.

    This way you can create different named views - workspaces, for instance I have got “Bot” and “Trading” workspaces. Yes, the trading workspace has ladders, so “Bet Event Trader” view, as the main UI to show market data.

    In my blog you can see different workplaces for football or tennis trading. You can switch between saved workspaces using View / Workspaces / My Workspaces / and selecting one you want to use.

    Last used workspace is automatically loaded when you restart/reopen bfexplorer app.

  • Tony
    14.6.2020 0:57:55

    That's absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much for all your help !

  • Betfair Bot
    12.6.2020 19:07:21

    Install the latest version of bfexplorer, I have just added Home/AwayNumberOfRedCards and CornersDifference to Football bot Start/StopCriteria parameters.

  • Tony
    12.6.2020 0:52:22

    That seems a very good tool for football trading. Wouldn't it be possible to include/use some of these parameters on a Football Bot ? Or at least the Red Cards information that can change the whole course of a match ?

  • Betfair Bot
    11.6.2020 18:27:04

    I can understand only what is asked, not what you think.

    Just common sense when we are talking about number of api calls to betfair api, to minimize you need to monitor as less as markets as needed using reasonable update interval.

    I do not know on what markets you run your strategy, or what exactly you do, so how could I advise?

    Graf, asked:

    “It could make some sense not to make so many calls until the first goal is scored and there is no active bet and most of all if the match ends 0-0. Am I right?”

    So I can only understand that he executes his strategy on football/soccer markets.

    Bfexplorer does not implement adjustable update interval, I mean feature that bot will automatically switch update interval for some markets that is the role of bespoke betfair app developed exactly for customer needs.

    In this post:

    http://bfexplorer.net/Community/BlogContent/525

    I described such tool for football trades who use match details, score, time, some statistics to decide if they open market/s, and trade on them.  

    This tool updates market data only for in-play markets in 5 seconds interval.

  • Tony
    11.6.2020 16:28:22

    Please understand that this discussion was (and still is) about on how to reduce Betfair data reading calls to prevent further API delays. Thank you

  • Betfair Bot
    11.6.2020 14:13:33

    Graf, this discussion was about how any bot operates on a market when bets are placed, not about exact strategy and how to execute it as effective as possible.

  • Graf
    11.6.2020 13:42:32

    It could make some sense not to make so many calls until the first goal is scored and there is no active bet and most of all if the match ends 0-0. Am I right ?

  • Betfair Bot
    10.6.2020 17:10:32

    Bot manages any action, so when executed every 10 seconds, setting any time parameter in the bot settings lower than update interval does not make sense.

  • Tony
    10.6.2020 16:48:33

    Ok. And if I use Strategy/Bot Executor with same Update Interval set to 10 seconds with a BeTheFirstInQueue bot with its ChaseOddsTimeout set to 00:00:01.5000000 will it also update the BeTheFirstInQueue bet placing each 00:00:01.5000000 and not each 10 seconds ? Thank you very much for all your time and patience.

  • Betfair Bot
    10.6.2020 14:23:21

    No, I already explained that, any bet operation is separated from market data update. It is totally different betfair API method call.

  • Tony
    10.6.2020 13:45:05

    Thank you very much for your short video. But what I really need to know is if, in "Strategy/Bot Executor", a bet also needs to wait those same 10 seconds Update Interval to be placed after a goal is scored (plus the regular Betfair "countdown" for live matches) or if those 10 seconds refers only to market data readings and bet placing on "Strategy/Bot Executor" is immediate (plus the regular Betfair "countdown" for live matches). 

  • Betfair Bot
    10.6.2020 13:11:56

    I have just added to your post short video that could help you understand the bot execution in the “Strategy Bot Executor” tool.

    I selected two markets and set the start execution time 5 minutes before official event start, and the update interval to 10 seconds.

    The bot to execute was: Test of ReportMarketDataChanged, just simple bot trigger script to report total matched volume on the market, or text: “No update!” when no data change or update was detected by bot.

    When clicking on Open button the “Strategy Bot Executor” loaded those two markets, and in Output view we could read:

    Strategy/Bot Executor: The next strategy/bot execution is scheduled to: 10. 6. 2020 12:40:00

    And exactly at: 10. 6. 2020 12:40:00

    We can see the message: “The bot Test of ReportMarketDataChanged has been started.”

    And after 10 seconds, in the next bot execution cycle:

    10. 6. 2020 12:40:10 Total matched: 52.54

    And so on every 10 seconds.

    Later I had double-clicked on selected market in the “Strategy Bot Executor” view, what means the market had been open in the “Bet Event” view, and as the bot was still active, it started to report:

    10. 6. 2020 12:40:47 Total matched: 114.72

    10. 6. 2020 12:40:47 No update!

    But of course not in 10 seconds interval but 250 milliseconds one, I use for the active market update.

  • Tony
    9.6.2020 22:45:37

    Ok, let's just forget the Betfair bet placing countdowns in Live matches. But if instead of BeTheFirstInQueue, I use a FillorKill or PlaceBet bot (with no delay set on the bot) and Strategy/Bot Executor Udate Interval set to 10 seconds, will it take also 10 seconds for that bet to be placed after 1-0 is scored ? What I really need to know is if Strategy/Bot Executor Update Intervals also delays bet placing or only refers to Betfair data readings. Thank you