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It is quite clear that when you do not use Use Ladder parameter, then default action bot is not overridden by what you clicked on the ladder. On the other hand your bot trigger base feature is react on what was clicked on the ladder, so entry parameters are delegated to your bot script.

Actually when you open the bot script file you can see how it is done and so you can use such type of ladder click processing in similar bot triggers.

You bot trigger base logic consists from 9 lines of code.
Actually I already showed how to use additional parameters:

5.0;Back;Place bet;Stake;55.55
2.0;Back;Trade 2 ticks

The first line have one additional parameter Stake, the second line has no additional parameters. You add additional parameters in pairs, first the name, and then value:

Stake;55.55

Can you show me how to set up additional bot parameters?
Some examples.
Thanks

For this type of Execute Trigger Bot you must set Use Ladder Parameter checkbox to True!

If you not set all the options in the .CSV file (all rows) you can just bet on the Back side even if you click on the Lay side on the Ladder. Execute Trigger Bot run predefided action bot - for example any Place bet bot with default parameters.

Be careful!

Really, awesome! Thanks.

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New level of semi automatic trading.

Yes, I know about it, therefor I named this feature Stop/Cancel All, it is available only when there are some unmatched bets on the market selections. It is about implementation details, I do not have seperate container for market selection bots, therefor it is hard to implement it, for now I leave as it is, later maybe I will do something.

Bots still running but I can't Stop them...

Betfair chart is not refreshed, and actually there is no reason to do so as it always displayed the latest chart image when popup window appears.

Profit column does not offer Stop and cancel all feature, you must click on the ladder button to explicitly activate this action. Click into a row in the Profit column places a hedge bet only.

I hope I have fixed problem with currency symbol, 1.6.5692 is released.

In the new version...

Localization:

Profit column:

In the new version of BFE:

- unmatched bet canceled but bots still works

- hedge profit is not calculate accurate

Settings:

New data from datafile overwrites default setting.

It is better for loading parameters ... only parameter, which I want to change.

If in a row is "OfferMyBet" the bot set "OfferMyBet = True".

For example "AtInPlayKeepBet" is not in the row -> it is means default settings -> AtInPlayKeepBet = False

Profit column:
Add parameter: Stop all bots and Cancel all placed bets.

Usually I stopped all bot and canceled all bets when I Hedged Profit on Selection.

How often are refreshed BF charts?

Ok.

Because is possible execute bots directly from the ladder (and this feature is the most strong for manually trading) we can raise this to the next level.

Look at images:

There is very clear example. The name of bot is only illustrative, because this bot can execute many others type of bots.

1) Click on: Use Ladder - I want to execute bot from a ladder

2) Click on: Place Bet bot - use ladder - I select my bot which I want to execute

3) Click on: the ladder - I clicked on: Odds 3,35 and To Back side ... WHAT HAPPENS?

See next image!!

I prepared file which can tell me what happens.

3) Click on: the ladder - I clicked on: Odds 3,35 and To Back side ... WHAT HAPPENS?

If I clicked on: Odds 3,35 and To Back side - run the bot with Bot name "Place Bet" and with parameters in same row. Understand?

See the first image: Bet €134 placed at 3,35 and waiting for matching...

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EASY!
Usability is neverending.

Yes, in 1 file you must set 700 rows (350× 1,01-1000 for Back and 350× 1,01-1000 for Lay side) but you can change parameter on every row!!

You need trade with 1 or 2 or 3 ticks to Profit? No problem, at 2,10 you set 3 ticks and at 8,0 1 tick... Easy and reflect your trading experience.

I think this will be strong feature for full automated trading too. I am looking forward...

Hi,

there is screenshot of my workplace.

No miracles: only Stakes, Charts, high Ladder.

All what I want is only for my comfort.

Compressed ladder especially. I don't need trade every tick. I am trading bigger and huge gaps. With no many rows the ladder will be more clear.

You really need to see 1,26-1,27-1,28-1,29 rows/odds on in-play market?

Attention: this is only for horse racing markets! Compressed ladder maybe will usable on football or tennis matches. But with another settings.

I do want to start a series of articles about Bot Trigger programming or about using them, and I actually did and do a lot in bfexplorer infrastructure to extend Bot Trigger features.

For instance I added two new triggers OpenAssociatedMarket and WatchMarketSelections that allows you orchestrate your trading markets or just to add market selections to Watched Selections view, so help you done what you have to do manually in couple step, done by Bot Trigger in one click.

You posted a couple ideas for Bot Trigger, so selected the one you want to implement first.

Well, yes in your trading style you prefer to execute your bot at exact odds, so it makes sense to visualize bot status on a selection ladder, but on the other hand there are bots which are not directly associated with a trigger action at the exact odds, but to odds range, or bots running on a market not on a selection.

As you are free to start as many bots as you want to, you can start two or more bots to be triggered at one odds level, so it means that in one row/price(odds) level, there would be more bots, not just the one.

Your comments helped me to realize the issue with PlaceBetInAllowedOddsRange set to False, because that is the only setting you can use in your scenario for Place Bet and Place Bet and Close Position bots, when bot trigger is set to start bet placing at exact odds. I have fixed this issue, and will update Market Bots to report about bet status.

Eric, I would like to see what you actually do, so if you are able to make video screencast then do so and publish it on youtube.

On Monday we can use Teamviewer, or other desktop sharing app, so I can connect to your computer remotely and assist you with setting up your solution.

You maybe never heard about desktop sharing or making video screencast, but Internet does, so just try to find some sources about it, and actually the best way for it is not to “google”, but directly search it on youtube, people do videos about everything, even about how to open a box.
In my post here on forum, I asked you to specify what you actually want to do, as it is clear that I will have to prepare/develop a bot trigger for you.

I am not trying to steal your strategy as you can describe it by general parameters you will be able to set in your bot trigger, not even saying about bot trigger main feature, and that is to execute your action bot. The action bot is defined/set in My Bots, so you are free to set anything to be your action bot in your bot trigger strategy, and that can be simple bet placing or trading bot, or even another bot trigger.

Just rotate your monitor to portrait mode, no I am not joking, actually chance is that you have got such type of stand on your monitor, then switch display settings in windows to portrait for this monitor.

I did rotated one of my monitors to portrait orientation and after changing app layout putting some of views on landscape orientated monitor and main app window with Bet Event Trader on portrait orientated monitor I have got when comparing ladder with 2 odds in middle, in portrait orientated monitor I saw odds from 1.6 to 2.54, in landscape one from 1.82 to 2.28.

For me, the computer is working tool, and as a software developer I used to use two monitors, it has advantages as when debugging a program, your IDE (for not programs/software developers the application you use to develop programs in, on Windows platform mainly Visual Studio) is on one monitor, and debugging app/program on other monitor. Some software developer use second monitor by default in portrait mode, as software developer you must read documentation, and so on.

I have got two old Samsungs 2443, with new 4K monitors I would again bought two monitors, even if resolution for latest monitors is a lot bigger now, that it was some years back.

Yes, what Miro suggests, the compressed typed of ladder has some advantage.

I do not think to be successful trader on in-play markets the ladder size makes any advantage, quite opposite is true, you must spot opportunity sooner than others do, and take value bet/s.

I have got two Professional users/traders from GB I made bespoke solutions years ago with their own different features, but basically what both do is to place a set of bets, cancel unmatched bets after set timeout (if active), close bet position (if active) either by hedging or set stake. Both traders actually do not use ladders, but activate bot execution for horse they type saddle number for. If saddle number is from 1-9 then firing action bots is as quick as pressing one number, for saddle numbers. One trader uses minus as well to change bet type to lay bet.

They use mini notebooks directly on racecourse, so they are seconds before you in judging race, and they place sets of bets by bot so in one API request. Well, yes if you know what you do then you can find your edge in in-play trading even if you trade from another country on UK horse race.

Hi dikenia,
and what your opinion on ladder without some rows.

Reduced Ladder... http://bfexplorer.net/Community/ForumContent/60#My New trading grid

I used some "In-Play trader" tools but for me they are confusing or not for my trading habits.

I like BF graphs - max. refresh, similar like on screen.

or at least making the ladders bigger. just as I said the aim is to see as many rows/odds as possible.