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Delayed API Status
Hello. Since yesterday I have a delayed API on my BF Explorer trading software. I had no bots running when this happened and now I am also unable to trade as all stakes in the markets keep flashing all over the ladders on random odds, being absolutely impossible to figure out what was the last price ...
9.5.2020 16:19:41
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Free Trial Review
I tried BFexplorer, having used 3-4 different software applications beforehand.
The 2 days utilising the software, I managed to get a feel for the product and like the modern display on the black background.
Bets placed were very responsive with no lagging experienced from other products.
A few ...
25.3.2015 17:55:00
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26.11.2024 10:54:45
Betfair Bot
Mir, no one likes parasites. Your betfair account is not closed but is switched to delay mode, what is basically useless for your automated betting/trading, but if it is true what you say, then you can simply place your bets manually to proof that you make fees/commission for betfair.
Later you can write them again asking to switch your api status to the normal one.
I repeated it many times when you were my subscriber to use common sense in whatever you do on betfair.
Unfortunately, other betfair vendors, with lack of features in their software promote such parasite behavior on betfair api data usage. Have a look at here on market feeder forum:
Bet for another two goals
User asked for simple football strategy, and what was advice? Well monitor all under/over markets of a football match just to place at 90 minute of the match on corresponding Over selection, depending on the current match score a back bet when odds are >= 150.
Using bfexplorer bots, you need to monitor match odds market only, starting from reasonable time, so football bot would be able to monitor match time and score, and at 90 minute of the match the football bot will execute trigger which would find out Under/Over market to open and place a bet on.
When using Bot Executor tool, market data are monitored only for markets on which bots are still running, so when football bot triggers its action bot it finishes its execution, so market monitoring is stopped for match odds market as well.
Mir.
I share my fail and my inexperienced behavior with BF account.
I feel like it everybody pays for foolishly bets. Last time I bet more than some betfair fees...
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btw: the trigger of this situation was the inability to divide activities into racing, soccer or greyhounds. Would you believe that?
Betfair Bot
Mir, you do not understand it. It is not about your betting or trading activity, or better to say how much money you earn from this activity.
It is about misuse of betfair api data. So if your paid fees on won bets are bigger than amount of data you get from betfair api, as betfair can simply count how much your activity costs them:
your fees minus cost of betfair resources you took, if that is positive value, you are profitable for betfair, if minus then you are not, you are commercial user who utilize betfair data for his own profit only.
Mir.
Yes, you are right. I have no subscription since 31.8.2017 for this my account linked with this user name. The reasons are obvious. Gambling policy in my native country (maybe, just as in your country). Elementary.
But to the point:
Where is the edge between trading "for fun" and trading for "living"? Is trading "for fun" commercial or not? Is trading for "living" equivalent for "PRO" trading?
These are not philosophical questions!
Automated trading is not about emotions. Only hundreds and thousands conditions which are met.
Ok. Lets start analyze some datas from markets...
Where is the edge between trading "for fun" and trading for "living"?
Apps like Bfexplorer have more value for the user than seems. But you have to be a professional user, and your results have to be consistent (I can hardly stand it if I pay for something that does not benefit me).
Be careful with testing your trading robots, follow the rulesof the Betfair. Peace.
Betfair Bot
Mir, you have no subscription with bfexplorer, your api access expired 31.8.2017 21:20:52, so I do not understand why are you spaming this forum?
Betfair closes accounts with no money, or no betting activity on accounts. Betfair api access is restricted to delay api data for accounts with no betting activity in last 3 months, or for accounts as mentioned in your post, where data usage pattern shows similarity of commercial user who just take data from betfair without any betting on these markets.
I think betfair closed developers and apps site due to this misuse of their api by Indy guppies.
Mir.
Thumbs up for the "Betfair Bot Programming for Non-Developers" series!
Mir.
Wow! that´s nice!
It looks very friendly...
I think it's worth trying out.
Betfair Bot
What you see on the video is not bot script, but as said: “…This simple betfair bot shows possibilities you have got when utilizing Bfexplorer BOT SDK …”
I created simplified version of the bot as the bot trigger script, only favourite changes are reported, bot trigger script does not load betfair SP prices:
FavouriteChangedBotTrigger.fsx
kinghobo
Hi Stefan , is it possible to get a copy of this script please
Thanks
Mike
Betfair Bot
Betfair owns your api access, so you must fulfill their T&C for accessing betfair data trough api.
Did you check my free web app to learn whether api data are available for your account?
https://www.cashoutall.com/
From which country are you from? Is betfair legal in your country? If not but you still can have betfair account, I mean if betfair did not close your account, then your ISP may block access to betfair servers.
Bfexplorer app uses two types of api access for market data, rest api, and streaming api, did you check both types of api access to learn if there are some differences?
Software cannot stop working suddenly, it cannot broke like that so it means that problems are really or your side. No other subscriber reported such problems.
If you are able to run some kind of remote access app, like teamviewer or similar app then email me access information, and I will check your problems on your computer.
Stefy
I Have money, I've placed and matched bets and didn't anything. Just used BF Explorer. Nothing else. Now no other software works. Can't understand. Account is ruined for any other software trading...
Betfair Bot
It is called trigger bot script, as it triggers some action, mainly bet placing or action bot execution.
In “Bots to Execute” view, click on Add button, the “Add a new order/bot” dialog appears. Focus to Search input box, and type there: trigger.
Select bot named: “Execute Trigger Bot”, well yes as the bot name suggests it is the bot which executes your trigger script files, or assemblies.
Focus to TriggerFilePathName parameter input box, on the right side of the input box appears “…” button, click on and Open dialog appears. By default there is set bot trigger assembly file filter: “Bo trigger assemblies (*.dll)”, changing it to: “Script files (*fs; *.fsx)” and select you bot trigger file, click on Open button.
If required, enter another bot trigger parameters through TriggerParameters input, name your “Execute Trigger Bot” settings and click on Save button.
Now you are ready to execute your bot settings on selected markets, or using the bot in tools: “Bot Executor” or “Bot Executor for Selection”.
What is a difference in bot script file, and bot assembly file?
The bot script is source code of your bot trigger, the bot assembly is complied version of your bot trigger. When bot script is used, bfexplorer first compile the script and then loads bot assembly to execute it, therefore first bot script execution takes more time, when using bot assembly, the bot execution is instant.
Why there are those two options?
The script file is used when you test you bot trigger, when you develop it using Bfexplorer Bot SDK. When you are finished with trigger development, and bot trigger works, so it is profitable you can build its compiled version, and maybe distribute to your friends, or sell to other people.
kinghobo
How do I add the downloaded fsx file to bfexplorer please Stefan ?
Betfair Bot
Betfair disables live betfair api access for accounts having no money on, placing no bets or breaking their T&C.
Stefy
It's working again. But now I have "Delayed API". API data take up to 3 minutes (!!!) to update. Why this happened ? How can it be fixed ?
Stefy
Yes, I already re logged in many times and reinstalled the software many times. I can log in but professional features are unavailable. Anti virus is off.
Betfair Bot
Yes, you have got professional subscription, so it means something went wrong when authorizing your subscription status.
Close bfexplorer and re-login again, let me know if you have got still wrong subscription status.
Check your antivirus software. Maybe requests to my authorization server are blocked.
Betfair Bot
It is Boolean algebra, and you can use any combination of parameters you like.
From your example: MatchTime>45 And ScoreDifference>1
Let’s say that the match time is 30 and score is 0 – 0, then from Boolean algebra you have got False and False what is equal to False, that means your trigger will not be fired.
Let’s say that the match time is 46 and score is 0 – 0, the result is True and False, what equals in Boolean algebra to False, the trigger is not fired.
Let’s say that the match time is 50 and score is 2 – 0, then from Boolean algebra you have got True and True (score difference is 2, what is > 1), this Boolean formula is equal to True, that means your trigger will be fired.
When you combine with And operator then all partial results must be True, to give you full results as True.
Using Or operator gives you True result when at least one partial result is True.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra
You can replace True to 1, and False to 0, then And Boolean operator is in algebra like * (multiplication), so 1 * 0 = 0 (False), 1 * 1 = 1 (True), 0 * 0 = 0 (False)
Corneliu
I'm having an hard time figuring out how to use "ScoreDifference" criteria correct parameters. i.e. Is "=1";">=2" and "<=3" etc. accepted or only "True" and "False" ? Can I use it with "MatchTime=" or "MatchTime>" in the same line ? i.e. "MatchTime>45 And ScoreDifference>1" ? Thanks for all your precious help, Stefan.
Betfair Bot
Croatia beat Argentina 3 – 0 at World Cup in Russia.
What were My Tipsters selections for this match?
16 tipsters selected Argentina, 5 tipsters Croatia, and 5 ones the Draw.
If you filtered Tipsters by ranking <= 10, and by positive “All Time Roi” you would get 3 tipsters from which two selected Croatia as winner selection.
Public voted 55.12% for Argentina and 27.31% for Croatia win.