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  • Betfair Bot
    1.4.2020 17:22:30

    The question is what is your own experience in required skills?

    From your specification: “data extraction” and “data analytics”.

    If you already have this historical data then you need to create your model, where from your data you are able to take some conclusions.

    For instance by entering parameters like Horse Name, Trainer, Jockey and so on, your model can return probability values for each horse (trainer, jockey) to win a race. This probability is then taken by bfexplorer bot as trigger to initiate bet placing or not.

    So from this point of view all you need to learn in bfexplorer are those two features:

    My Strategies / Bots to Execute

    Strategy / Bot Executor

  • Betfair Bot
    31.3.2020 9:31:58

    Traded data use case scenario. 

  • Betfair Bot
    16.2.2020 15:36:48

    When you open bfexplorer.net web page, on the home page:

    http://bfexplorer.net/Home

    There is list of main features, the same can be found:

    http://bfexplorer.net/Products/ProductFeatures

    These twelve main features describe how to use bfexplorer app for your betting, trading or automated execution of different betfair strategies.

    I hope you have managed to open bfexplorer and login to betfair that is the starting point.

    So after opening bfexplorer app and login to betfair, bfexplorer app shows Event Browser view, loaded with Upcoming in-play events.

    When selecting any market in grid view of the Event Browser, the Execute in Strategy / Bot Executor toolbar icon is activated. That means that you can do what “Execute in Strategy / Bot Executor” sentence would suggest, so start your bot strategy on markets loaded to Event Browser grid view.

    You want to execute your strategy on greyhounds markets; it means you need to open greyhounds markets to the Event Browser. You want to execute some strategy, so it means you need to define such strategy adding it to “My Strategies / Bots to Execute” view.

    Your key features you need to familiarize yourself are:

    Market navigation and browsing

    Place bet, Execute till target profit

    Strategy / Bot Executor

    Just browsing forum, you can find a lot of examples for above three features.

  • Betfair Bot
    26.1.2020 19:29:37

    Bfexplorer offers bot named: “Execute Till Target Profit”, so bot suitable to execute sequential bets till target profit/loss is reached. The bot places next bet in sequence only when previous bet is settled, so it is known that bet is winner, and/or loss.

    In your strategy you use “Reular Time Goals” market, so your bets are not settled when period ends, but only when matched ends.

    To execute your strategy you need ice hockey live score, so bot needs to know which period is played, and what the correct score is.

    Yes, the strategy can be programmed. If you are familiar with some programming language then you can use Bfexplorer BOT SDK to program your ice hockey strategy bot.

  • Betfair Bot
    15.1.2020 23:09:45

    Your subscription code was assigned to you, I can see it had been generated.

    If you have problems then you must understand that activation of subscription code and as well activation of your api access is done on betfair servers. If you still cannot login then betfair simply blocks your access, it is done so for not used accounts, accounts with zero balance, and of course for blocked accounts.

    Therefore please ask betfair. If you did not bet for more than 3 months, or have zero balance on your account, then deposit and place a bet on betfair, the matched one. This helps to reactivate api access.

  • Betfair Bot
    3.12.2019 21:15:43

    Advice from Peter Webb from betangel forum:

    Perhaps see if there has been a big price change with no change is score line on the correct score market?

    It is really funny but this best software on the betfair world:

    “Bet Angel is the premier software for trading on Betfair. Used by professionals all over the world, Bet Angel has been developed by traders who use it as their primary tool. Introduced in 2004, Bet Angel is constantly developed with more features and improved performance over any alternative software.”

    Have no support for live score match data in automation!

  • Betfair Bot
    28.11.2019 14:56:21

    Yes, you start your custom built bot assembly with app:  Bfexplorer.exe

    Do you really think you will manage to program your bot, having such big problems when debugging bot code? I think you should find bot developer, or just send me specification for your custom bot.

     

  • Betfair Bot
    28.11.2019 11:38:27

    C:\Program Files (x86)\BeloSoft\Bfexplorer\Bfexplorer.exe

  • Betfair Bot
    13.11.2019 22:33:48

    And here is the result.

    Well, yes it would be a good idea to optionally execute "Close Market Bet Position" bot, after dutching bet is matched.

  • Betfair Bot
    7.11.2019 10:16:36

    ATP player' statistics

  • Betfair Bot
    5.11.2019 9:07:36

    No

  • Betfair Bot
    4.11.2019 16:39:32

    Your bot code is executed in market update event, so if your active market refresh rate is set to 250 ms, then your bot is executed every 250 ms. For passive markets (default 10s) or markets added to bot executor tool the default settings is 1 second.

    It means that when time is critical factor for your bot execution then you must set reasonable values for market update interval.

    If you are using streaming for data update (that is relevant only for active and passive markets in Bet Event View and Open Markets view), then as updates are really streamed only when changes are detected, your bot can be executed in heart beat event only, set for active market to 1s and for passive markets to 15 seconds, keep that in mind!

    Why is it implemented this way?

    Well, because bot reacts on market data changes, and there is no reason to execute a bot when there are no market data changes.

  • Betfair Bot
    4.11.2019 8:57:13

    I had already answered such question.

  • Betfair Bot
    30.10.2019 13:07:48

    Please watch this video from my debugging of bot trigger code:

    Debugging Bot Trigger Code

    I set breakpoint, and add to watch view, selection and selection.BetPosition, so I could browse the watched object data, and see what properties are full with data.

    The similar dialog I added couple month ago to bfexplorer so you can browse some market and market selection data, to learn about bfexplorer data, and how/what you can use in your bot trigger code.

  • Betfair Bot
    30.10.2019 11:07:59

    Have a look at the line 34:

    sprintf "%s: %A" selection.Name selection.BetPosition

    selection.BetPosition object offers your bet position, so please browse data, put their break point when dubbing your bot trigger code.

  • Betfair Bot
    28.10.2019 16:01:12

    Yes, exactly. You simply must use correct wording. “Bets” is plural, right? So it is collection, not one bet. On the object property that is bet, you could do so: bet.Price and so on.

    I do not know what exactly you want to achieve as it is clear that you could have more unmatched bets on selection, so make reusable functions you could use/reuse in your bot triggers.

    I wanted to explain in my sample bot trigger code, how you can work on bfexplorer domain objects, so I used direct code, but if you try to write:  unmatched .. Visual Studio will offer you all available functions/types and so available for you after you

    open BeloSoft.Bfexplorer.Domain

    so surprising it is offered for you:

    isUnmatchedBet, unmatchedBetsExists, getBets, getUnmatchedBets, getUnmatchedBetsByBetType and so on and on.

    So code I already had wrote and is reusable.

    Then you could write:

    let layUnmtached = market.Bets |> getUnmatchedBetsByBetType BetType.Lay
    
    if not layUnmtached.IsEmpty
    
    then
    
        let firstUnmatched = layUnmtached.Head
    
        firstUnmatched.Price
    
        ...
    
  • Betfair Bot
    28.10.2019 13:20:07

    Any code, in any programming language is “sentence” expressed by programming language “words” and constructs you can make by programming, adds the language vocabulary.

    So the vocabulary you can use to express your intentions in programming language is limited to couple words.

    The above line of code:

    let Stake = _selection.GetPriceSize(BetType.Lay)

    In human sentence expresses:

     Selection, get PriceSize object for Lay side to stake!

    As English have strict words order in sentence, to be grammatically correct, we command so exclamation mark at the end of sentence.

    So you command selection to get PriceSize, and in this context it is Lay PriceSize offered. It is not bet, it is offer on this selection other bettors placed.

    You can command bet object to get price or size to you, so odds or stake you placed a bet with.

    So you must ask/command _selection.Bets to get all unmatched bets to you (to value), and then ask a bet to get you price, size and so on, like I did in my bot trigger code:

    BetStatusBetCancellingBotOrchestrationBotTrigger.fsx

    on the line 31.

    *** 

    Read further only when you want to learn some advance features of F# programming language.

    ***

    I do not know in what context you use _selection, but please keep in mind that in F# underscore _ is used as intention to declare not used value, because in F# you must declare exact intention, so like in mathematics it does not make sense to express something what is not used.

    Yes, in other programming languages, programmers used to declare object variables with _, but in F# it has different meaning, for instance here:

    ShowPriceTradedVolume.fsx

    On the line 52, where I declared construct for BetStatusBetCancellingBotOrchestrationBotTrigger type, I used _ for not used values, because in F# any input value/s in constructor are declared as well as object values you can access not only in constructor but in entire type.

    On the line 106, you can see __ (two underscores), so in type member you must type __ to declare not used self-identifier of object. I use this as self-identifier, but you can use whatever word/character.

    Ok, this underscore issue is for advance developers, you code will work whatever you will use.

    ***

    Option value

    ***

    For the option types/values it is similar like in C# for Nullable. So you can use anOptionValue.IsSome and if is some you can get value by: anOptionValue.Value, but better way is to use match expression or functions from Option module, like Option.iter.

    In my code you can find maybe, computation expression I created, so for options you can type simplified expressions, for instance here:

    ShowHorseData.fsx

    Lines from 39 to 43, and then on line 40, let! ... actually evaluates if mySelection.MetaData.IsSome and continues only when it is assigning to metaData the value, otherwise returning None.

    Such expression allows me to write less code. Programming is not about writing a lot of code, actually less code is always better approach.

    Programming is about understanding of context in which you write the code, and so it is about interpreting of “words”.

  • Betfair Bot
    28.10.2019 10:12:58

    Peter may I ask you to explain me by your own words, how do you understand this line of code?

    let Stake = _selection.GetPriceSize(BetType.Lay)

    As you may know, and now I speak not about programming languages, but about languages, my mother’s language is Slovak, and in many Slavic languages there is no such strict rule for word order like in English sentence.

    That is the funny part in your question, because well my understanding of any language construct is a little bit different from the way only English people could read the code, the sentence.

    Well, yes I understand what you want to try to do in your code, but the “words” you chose to do so are quite unclear for me.

  • Betfair Bot
    27.10.2019 11:48:45

    this. is used to access object properties or methods.

    You type your code as you would access static method or type. You must type object, so in this case maybe: market.MarketInfo.StartTime

  • Betfair Bot
    26.10.2019 14:17:38

    You can access market’s bets or selection’s bets directly (line 76 and 31), and for matched bets you can access BetPosition property, the line 79 and 34.

    BetPosition type/class allows you to calculate hedge stake and so on, have a look at on the type methods.

    To cancel bets you can use TriggerResult.CancelBets, the line 150.

    I already mentioned that the better way is to orchestrate existing bots to execute parts of your strategy, for instance you set trading bot and all bet placing/updating or cancelling your bets is then managed by this trading bot.

    In my bot trigger I showed what you asked and created such simple bots’ orchestration:

    BetStatusBetCancellingBotOrchestrationBotTrigger.fsx

    Please watch my video. To show how to cancel bets, I set my action bot: “Back 1 tick better”, so bot offers 2 Euro back bet 1 tick over best offered price. When odds changes and are in allowed odds range Minimum/MaximumOdds, the bot updates its unmatched bet to always offer its back bet 1 tick over the best offered, set by the parameter: PriceImprovemnt.

    Now, in my bot trigger I cancelled unmatched bet on my selection, the line 150. But what happened?

    As the bet was placed by my action bot, and the bot is managing its bets itself, the bet was again placed.

    What does it mean?

    If you place your bets by action bots, you do not need to manage bets placed by the action bot, but of course if you do not want your unmatched bets be offered on the market anymore, you need to stop the action bot, and as the action bot managing its bets, the unmatched bets will cancel its bets when you end its execution, the line 160.

    It is really better way to orchestrate action bots in your bot trigger than managing bet status in your bot trigger.

    Well yes, if you want to place your bets directly then you can do so, you have got:

    TriggerResult.PlaceBets

    TriggerResult.CancelBets

    Let’s say you have got strange trading strategy, where you setup the trading bot:

    "Place Bet and Close Selection Bet Position"

    To offer bet 3 ticks from best offered price, and close its bet position with profit of 3 ticks, or 5 ticks to lose.

    You would setup two versions of this trading bot one offering back and the other one lay bet. In your bot trigger you would execute such pair of trading bots on 3 favourites when some conditions occurred.

    Now imagine what you would have to program to manage such complex trading strategy in your bot trigger by directly placing your bets.